Temp server

[*POTS*]

I'm not attacking you MEAT, I respect both you and the Klownz, and I can publicly say you both have helped me and showed great fair play on those rare occasions I've joined your servers.

The problem is I'm really tired of all this "food for cats", and I don't want to be involved in these endless discussions anymore.

About telling people what i think; I do. I have told the guys many times to remember the test server was not a new MHM. You all (Hellfire, Biomech, Supreme, etc.) did not listen and continue summoning and goofing, knowing that Gopo does not like that behaviour. If you all would have remembered that we would not be having this trouble now.

Do you think I've approved their behaviour? Go check the posts in the forum and the PMs. If they're teenagers acting like teenagers it's not my fault.

I just don't like the 360 degrees attack to the whole MHM members and their behaviour and gamestyle, that's what really pizzes me off.

Now sorry, but I'm not going to reply anymore.

[Edit]
P.S. I apologize if someone has felt attacked and/or hurted in his/her feelings, gopostal included.

[MEAT]

I'm not attacking you MEAT, I respect both you and the Klownz, and I can publicly say you both have helped me and showed great fair play on those rare occasions I've joined your servers.

P.S. I apologize if someone has felt attacked and/or hurted in his/her feelings, gopostal included.

I like everyone here...even those I biatch at...but it's all in good fun for me.
Half the stuff I say or have said was just to get people wiled up.
I'm an adult and should know better to attack or disrespect anyone on a damn forum.
But like you and everyone else ...we all get carried away in our thinking and our actions.
So if anyone wants to attack or question me I'm up for the debate...bring it.
But again, I don't think we should attack those that make this forum or our servers possible.
Not that I'm saying gopostal was right...hell he's older then me and half senile...lol

[Ice]

This post is mostly for Gopo.

Okay I think mostly Gopo you keep telling everyone its Herms rule not your. I understand completely and I think others do too. I think their questions/statements are not so much directed at you as an admin on the server but your voice on the forum.

You have when ever something bad (small or big) happens posted a thread. I know this is mostly because you like to hear peoples thoughts about topics like these but truthfully I think there is no point. A simple PM between maybe you, Herm, and the player(s) included in the incident. That way everyone not involved doesn't have to stick there points in (myself included so don't take as an attack).

Lastly I think we're all scared that your going to see something and maybe see it different then we do. Like a player saying stop. You would immedietly turn on the red flag but in the past I've even yelled at other players to stop bugging me or boosting etc. That does not mean I want them in trouble though. Unless they continue on endlessly but by then I would probably post something or send Herm a message. I think I've only done that 1-2 times though in the past two years. Of course if there is a player not used to MHM and by this I mean completely new to us. If they were to repeatedly say stop then take some action but again I think a PM discussion will do.

So I guess my point is try to really look at the situation before you post a thread and a big deal is made. Like with this test server issue I wasn't there for it but came a few hours later. I found everyone saying "oh I hope no one says much about it because we all resolved it already." You really gotta trust us MHM we can surly resolve any issue between eachother within minutes.

I don't think any of it seems like it but just in case *None of this is an attack on anybody!*
I think Gopo can be a great admin with some adjusting to our MHM home.

Also this is hopefully my last post on this topic. I just wanted to try to clarify to Gopo somethings we think. So don't post replys to mine unless its just a simple question. I don't want to amplify this at all so keep any negative posts away please

[Hermskii]

C'mon people......stop holding back so much. Let your real feelings out! Hahahaha.

OK, OK. I'm sorry that I'm teasing you all which I am doing in case you can't tell. There is just so much passion flying around here right now that it is painful. I have to admit that I feel like people are begging through their posts to other people for me to come out and set the record straight. I feel like some of you are pounding on others instead of me in the hopes that I'll finally jump out and tell you what you want so I can stop making you be mean to each other.

Sorry. Not going to happen. I feels like some of you are trolling for me to react. Yeah, that's how it feels to me sometimes. Usually it is best to step up and take care of issues the second they happen. I think most people try to take care of business quickly. Some like me prefer to let the dust settle and then take action.

I'm disappointed I must admit in several of you for over reacting, speculating, making misguided predictions and accusations but mostly the general fallout that is happening due to lack of ability to bite ones lip. For the youngsters here that means to be able to just shut up no matter how important what you want to say seems to be.

[Hermskii]

So in conclusion since I ran out of space on that last post, I hope everyone here can get a grip before somebody really freaks out and no it won't be me. To me, this is like watching a younger brother and sister have another stupid fight and take it way too far again like usual. I'll ask our local youngsters to settle down, be patient, grow up just a tad and expect to continue enjoying their stay here.

I'll ask us old folks to settle down, be patient, grow down just a tad and expect to continue enjoying our stay here. See that we're all not that far apart when it comes to getting back in line with each other and with the way this forum and the servers were meant to be used. Nothing is final ever and that is final! Everything can be done here and undone and then redone at will. My point being that just because things make appear to be going in directions we don't like, it doesn't mean we have to hold on to the old way for dear life even if it kills us. Sometimes, it is best to stand back and just watch what happens. Call it the bar room fight mentality. Sure it seems like you need to be in it but after you're in enough of them you learn to just stand back and watch and wait for it to be over before you step back into the danger zone.

Right now MHM is the danger zone. Just watch your step and everything ought to be just fine. Anybody still planning to shoot off their mouth after this post? Let's see!

[BIOMECH]

I've just realized there is no actual problem, the whole fight is based on generalizations, predictions, and what happened in past.

I'm not saying it should, but if the whole thread was deleted right now we wouldn't have any problems.

[MEAT]

I've just realized there is no actual problem, the whole fight is based on generalizations, predictions, and what happened in past.

I'm not saying it should, but if the whole thread was deleted right now we wouldn't have any problems.

Are You Ready To BLEED...

[-HellFire-]

Horrible, I just woke up and I had to read 1½ pages!!
Don't do this to me again, I feel paranoid now

I think that lock the topic is useless but just don't reply unless it's neccesary is also a good option.
This could be our discussion topic for issues in the future (I hope there won't be any issues).

[gopostal]

I would like to add that I'm really proud of you guys for stepping up and voicing your opinions on things. I don't mind being the focal point of the anger, but I think there's been a few issues discussed that needed to be brought up. It's been respectful, frank and open.

How about an Olive leaf from my end to start the process of closure? The password will be removed from the testserver for the weekend and you guys can try the new mods. They still have some bugs but overall its pretty good. Might be a fun change of pace. Let's start from there and try to work things out.

[Blood Asp]

gopostal if i was also to make a suggestion to you then i would say that you should also probably change the admin password so only you and hermskii know it. Hopefully you will understand my meaning

[BIOMECH]

I always wondered why the server password was changed instead of the admin password.

Explanation please? =)

[Blood Asp]

I Cant tell you a 100% Accurate answer, but i can give you my theory behind it, gopostal wanted the server to be a private place for MHM members and close friends to have some fun and if everybody is ok with it maybe summon a few things and just generally have a lot of fun, However alot of people are taking abuse of this and summoning things which are not suitable for the map, and summoning far too much, and also if people are trying to test a new map or one they havent played and someone goes summoning stuff and kills everything and rushes to the end in a few mins it kinda ruins the point for the people who want to test that map.

This is why i think only gopostal and hermskii should have access to this password, Looking thru the pages before this u will notice alot of the complaints are about people summoning things and generally making people annoyed, especially when testing things.

[BIOMECH]

I was asking why the server password was changed instead of the admin password, NOT why the admin password was changed

[Blood Asp]

And i gave you your answer if you read closely

[gopostal]

The invasion gametype ini still had a password. Its removed now and you can vote invasion and play it. Sorry I missed that.

Bio, a quick answer to your question is I"m not so concerned with "security" as I am "interfering". Having people join the game as logged admin is fine. It's what they do after that that is the issues.

Let's try to move forward guys from this and build MHM. Let past problems remain in the past. Village map anyone?