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The BUF (Beyond Unreal Forum) "Off Topic" section review!

Post by Hermskii » Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:54 pm

I started having political discussions here a while back and upset several folks who (amazingly to me) don't share my political opinions.

I found I was damaging this place more than opening the eyes of the people who "in my opinion" were blind to certain issues and what I thought were solutions to problem in out country. Because of this I went elsewhere to fight in their house in order to keep this one clean and quiet.

I do want to mention that recently I have gotten emails, PMs and I have also read on other sites what I have come to find as the cold hard truth about the "BUF - Off Topic" section. That section seems to be a pool of or collection of the sickest left wing leaning progressive liberals who jointly attack everyone concerning their pro-religious and or politically conservative views.

I have paid a little attention to who the main guys are who seem to be in the middle of each attack sequence. I plan to list their names here with a small guessed profile about a few of them in the hopes to bring some folks from here to there to enjoy the show. For several of you, you might fit right in and prefer it over there for all I know. If so...see ya! For others like me, you may view it as a new train wreck to watch every day. A place where you might be able to help a survivor or two each time you visit.

The cast of characters over there is vast and confusing too because right when you think you have one of them figured out, they say something that isn't totally stupid or acidic. They aren't stupid either. They are smart as hell and many would do incredibly well debating the guilt or innocence of sick, perverted, misguided suspects in a court of law. Yeah. They are smart like that so be careful if you jump in and comment on anything.

I'd love to bring it here but they have long had the championship belt for running the most one-sided, ill-fated, sick and twisted off the cuff, tongue in cheek, stab you in the back and then send you flowers forums in the world. They will have pissed in the flowers too by the way. LOL.

So anyways, as I find time I hope to help a few of you get to know of few of them. My real hope is that I can help to dilute the cesspool of progressive ooze that saturates every topic there with straight forward conservative and religion based consideration. Right now I think the ratio is about 25 liberals / independents to every 1 Christian based Republican.

While I know I feel one ideology is certainly correct over the other I feel that I want to do this because I don't feel that Conservative Republicans maul and attack people like I have seen this little gang of liberal / progressive raptor like democrats do. If conservatives will do this, this "BUF - Off Topic" is the best place to show your fangs. Enjoy! Here is a link and have fun!

http://forums.beyondunreal.com/forumdisplay.php?f=8

Edit: For my own records here is a list of the folks I have done a profile on so far so I check here and not have to go through every post again to make sure I haven't already completed a BIO on certain members from over there. Here is who I have done so far in the order I did them:

Balton
Hermskii
Sir_ Briz
Jack's Smirking Revenge
cryptophreak
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TWD (Just completed)

Note: I also changed the word bio for profile since profile seemed more accurate even though much of the info listed is simply guesses on my part.
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Re: The BUF (Beyond Unreal Forum) "Off Topic" section review

Post by a nameless entity » Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:35 pm

Well at last a link to this place you have been telling us about for months. Interesting thread, even for a foreigner such as myself.

You are correct. There are some very smart Democrat supporters over there. I agree with much that that fellow "Jacks:SmirkingRevenge" had to say.

Since you have said that you are rediscovering your faith, I feel compelled to warn you that you came very close to committing the sin of bearing false witness, since you suggested that somehow all "Liberals" sympathize with perverts and murderers. It's a good thing that that was all tongue in cheek stuff to get us to go have a look over there, you naughty boy! ;)

I may go over there to read some of the threads for fun some time, but I don't think I will join in. I am a foreigner after all, and ultimately it is none of my business. (Except for those aspects that affect my country, and ultimately how I must live.)

I have a suggestion for you, should you ever decide on a new career path. Join the Republican party if you are not already a member, and become active in the national Republican scene. I know you to be an honest and upright young man. I would urge you to become active not so much to become elected, but rather to work inside the party machinery. Gather other like minded upright fellows around yourself, and work from within to purge the party of all of the dishonest scumbags who have abandoned the original time honoured party philosophy in favour of being the lackeys of the ownership class.

If you do this, and some honest people can be found to similarly purge the Democrats of their ne'er do wells at the same time, then perhaps your system of government can be saved. Otherwise I fear it will soon collapse into a chaos far worse than what you have now, and that will be the end of democracy. I have heard rumblings in the media over the past year that there are those who are now openly planning to turn the USA into a one party despotic state, very soon. :shock:

(Oh yes, I should point out that this has been an idea of mine for years, as regards both the Liberal party of Canada, and the Conservative party. The socialist NDP have never held power, and are probably ok for now. But they do have a massive number of young new MP's from Quebec, a place where corruption has been almost openly a part of the way of things for many decades. We aren't as far along the road to self destruction just yet, but now that the Liberals have almost ceased to exist, we in effect now have a two party system also.)
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Re: The BUF (Beyond Unreal Forum) "Off Topic" section review

Post by Hook » Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:45 pm

Yes, I agree Nameless - Hermskii in the NRP would certainly do it some good! :wink:

On another note...
I am a member there at Beyond Unreal, but I have never had much gumption to join in much over there.
I was an avid member of the old Nali City (one of their listed Mappers), but Nali City left a very bad taste in my mouth.
There were too many "clowns" over there that loved to flame people just for laughs.
It was very detrimental to UT I believe and is also what I think led to the demise of Nali City. :| Too bad!
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Re: The BUF (Beyond Unreal Forum) "Off Topic" section review

Post by Hermskii » Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:54 pm

Hey Nameless,

Don't let the fact that you aren't a citizen here stop you. Hell I think almost half of the good folks over there don't live in the USA. I'm also glad you mentioned Jacks Smirking Revenge. He is one of the ring-leaders there. He and I don't see eye to eye on squat. Here is one example: If I recall properly, he has stated that Obama doesn't lean left. I'd bet he thinks we are better off now than we were 4 years ago too.

I think I'll come back here and list JSR as the first I person write up a forum bio about.

Just make sure to recall the ratio there that I mentioned. It is ridiculously lopsided and the tree huggers are as vicious as I have ever seen anywhere. They have owned that section of the forum for many years as near as I can tell from what the others tell me via emails and PM's.
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Re: The BUF (Beyond Unreal Forum) "Off Topic" section review

Post by a nameless entity » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:45 pm

Hermskii wrote:Here is one example: If I recall properly, he has stated that Obama doesn't left. I'd bet he thinks we are better off now than we were 4 years ago too.
"Obama doesn't left"? Did you mean that Obama leans to the left? Or is left of centre in his politics? Please correct or expand.

When I spoke of agreeing with what I saw there, I was of course referring to only the thread you linked.

Have I mentioned before a rather quaint Canadian custom we have up here if you wish to protest the choices you have on the voting ballot?
Most people protest by not voting, but those protests are never counted as such. And up here it is not the correct way to go about it. If you think they all are unworthy of your vote, or you protest the political situation and think there is no point to voting at all, you go to the polling station and check in normally. Then when you are handed your ballot, you give it right back to them and tell them that "you are refusing your ballot".
It then has to be counted as such, and they get a better idea of how many people are unhappy. These refused ballots become part of the recorded statistics for the election along with how many spoiled ballots there were, and how many percent of the population did not bother to show up to vote.

So to protest properly, you must show up and refuse your ballot. I wonder if you can do that in the USA?
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Re: The BUF (Beyond Unreal Forum) "Off Topic" section review

Post by Hermskii » Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:44 pm

Yes, I meant that I was saying that he says that Obama doesn't lean left.
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Re: The BUF (Beyond Unreal Forum) "Off Topic" section review

Post by a nameless entity » Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:33 am

Well I guess it all depends on where you draw the line as the "centre". Clearly JSR places it differently than you do.

In the old days, in comparison to the Canadian political parties, the Democrats were described by our media as sitting about where the Progressive Conservatives were on the left to right political scale. And the Republicans were considered to be very far to the right beyond the Democrats.

On a European scale, both American parties are very far to the right.

Americans are often described in the various foreign media as a very conservative society.
And I have always believed that observation to be correct. :|
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Post by Hermskii » Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:27 pm

"Jean Charest bids farewell to government as Liberals lose to PQ"


Does this mean Canada just became more like Romney or Obama?


Either way....why? Why did he get voted out?
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Re: The BUF (Beyond Unreal Forum) "Off Topic" section review

Post by a nameless entity » Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:54 pm

That was a provincial election. And what it means is that Quebec is as [fouled] up as ever.
This time around the PQ got four more seats than the Liberals. Two seats went to a couple of vaguely separatist fellows whose party name I forget. Even with those two fellows support, the PQ have nowhere near the magic number of 63 seats to form a majority. So they must curry support from the opposition to get anything done.

Not that they can do much anyhow. Quebec is stone broke. All attempts to cut back are causing so much pain that everyone is pissed off. It's why the Liberals just barely lost the election. Mr. Charest lost his seat. He gets to take a well deserved vacation now.
-Let the PQ take the blame for a while, I say. They almost certainly won't be thinking of a referendum of separation; despite what the hot heads in the party may push for. They'd never pass such a bill at this time.

Is Quebec more like Romney or Obama now? I'd have to say Obama in political policy, and Romney in real life. A gun toting NRA outer fringe type of nutcase tried to get into the venue where the PQ were holding their victory party and shoot what's-her-name the party leader. He didn't get in, but we have one dead, one wounded, and one gun owner under arrest. :roll:

Thank god I don't live there. Thank god my brother moved back to Ontario from Montreal 6 years ago. :!:

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Re: The BUF (Beyond Unreal Forum) "Off Topic" section review

Post by Hermskii » Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:59 pm

OK. Here is an example of how messed up these folks are. This is from today: 9/11.

http://forums.beyondunreal.com/showthread.php?t=198957

If any of you stand with these guys I'd really like to know.
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Re: The BUF (Beyond Unreal Forum) "Off Topic" section review

Post by a nameless entity » Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:56 pm

Why do you waste your time keeping track of what these trolls, cretins, insensitive jerks, and violence loving pinheads have to say about anything?

I don't mind if a debate becomes heated as long as it remains polite. But if that's the usual fare over there, then I suggest that you absent yourself from it. There's too much negative energy buzzing around in there. It will only pull you down. I certainly will not be going back. I've seen enough. :roll:
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Post by Hermskii » Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:27 pm

I have to go back. I might be able to save a few of them. the ones I might have saved already don't go back there. Maybe I should call it a win and save myself. LOL. Yeah, these are the sickest folks I've ever seen I think.
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Re: The BUF (Beyond Unreal Forum) "Off Topic" section review

Post by Smacks » Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:40 pm

normally I wouldn't do something like this, but someone over @ BuF brought this thread to my attention and so I just have to reply.

just because people disagree with your hardline conservative views does not mean they are "blind." just because we disagree with you does not mean we are "sick." no one ever attacked you for being "pro-religious," we tend to make fun of all religions. you're not special.

if anything is sick, it's the way you go and complain about us on other forums, as if we've actually gotten under your skin. and then you talk about planning to "list their names here with a small bio about a few of them." what the hell is that about? that's just weird.

I love how you pretend to be fair to BuF, only to turn around and hit us with a backhand.
apparently we're "smart," so smart that you expect us to be defending the innocence of "sick, perverted, misguided suspects in a court of law." seriously? where do you get off? you say all these things on this forum where you don't think we can see you, but then you claim it is BuF that would "stab you in the back and then send you flowers."

do you have any idea what irony means?

progressiveness / Liberal attitudes are not a "cesspool" of "ooze" just because you don't personally ascribe to them. you don't think that Conservatives "maul and attack" people like Liberals apparently do? because you're mauling and attacking us (in a place where we cannot defend ourselves) right now.

do you have any idea what hypocrisy means?

for people that don't know and only heard Herm's side of the story, BuF is a very casual and sarcastic forum. we like to poke fun. we like to make light of things. there are very few threads or topics that are taken very seriously. it's not a "train wreck" and no one needs saving. it's a place where people who have known each other since about 2002 go to have fun. and we have fun, in spite of your trying to sh*t on it just because we don't see eye-to-eye when it comes to politics.

also, shout out to A Nameless Entity for being down-to-Earth enough to realize that not everyone at BuF is quite like Herm tries to depict them.
You are correct. There are some very smart Democrat supporters over there. I agree with much that that fellow "Jacks:SmirkingRevenge" had to say.
in case you couldn't figure it out, I am Jacks. surprise surprise.
but I'm not a "ring leader." I'm just one of several people over there who isn't afraid to call a Spade a Spade. and I have no qualms about pointing out how ridiculous and stupid some of the things are that you have said about Democrats and President Obama; things that are borderline racist if not willfully ignorant.

but it's honestly pathetic that you're over here trying to tell people to go and join BuF in order to act as some kind of counterweight to your perceived slights and insults. if we really got under your skin to such an extent, then it's just sad. this is the internet man. let it go. just be happy you live in Texas surrounded by people who think and act exactly like you do.

I'll be pleasantly surprised if you don't delete my account and this post before the people here actually get a chance to hear the other side of the story....

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Re: The BUF (Beyond Unreal Forum) "Off Topic" section review

Post by a nameless entity » Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:16 pm

Smacks wrote: also, shout out to A Nameless Entity for being down-to-Earth enough to realize that not everyone at BuF is quite like Herm tries to depict them.

I'll be pleasantly surprised if you don't delete my account and this post before the people here actually get a chance to hear the other side of the story....
Well thanks for the kind words, but be prepared to be pleasantly surprised. Herm doesn't delete accounts because someone disagreed with him. On the rare occasions that someone has gotten the boot, it was for valid reasons that Hermskii specified in his announcement that so and so was no longer a member. He has always been very upfront about that sort of thing. As well as everything else that goes on in here, for that matter.

You should realize that while Hermskii does have what I as a Canadian would call "ultra conservative" views, please be aware that he also has a sense of humour and was surely speaking with tongue in cheek about a lot of the things that you were complaining about.
normally I wouldn't do something like this, but someone over @ BuF brought this thread to my attention and so I just have to reply....

....the way you go and complain about us on other forums, as if we've actually gotten under your skin....
With all due respect, I think this skin thing has gone both ways here. Your sense of righteous indignation has come close to having a flame like quality. I previously said in this thread that I don't need that kind of heat. However, winter is coming, and as I heat with oil, perhaps I should change my mind and continue to visit your forum and stay warm just basking in the glow of any flame war between two other parties that I kind find. ;)
for people that don't know and only heard Herm's side of the story, BuF is a very casual..[.....]...forum. we like to poke fun. we like to make light of things. there are very few threads or topics that are taken very seriously. it's not a "train wreck" and no one needs saving. it's a place where people who have known each other since about 2002 go to have fun. and we [do] have fun.
I have very slightly edited this part of your heart felt diatribe to point out that this is how we are here as well. Many of the members have known each other even longer than 10 years, as we came to Hermskii's forum from another one that was based around a UT99 mod (Redeemer Arena). We have known each other for years, and are comfortable here. Most of the members are 35+ in age (I'm 59) so you won't see many if any flame wars here. We're too old and lazy to bother with that stuff. :lol:

If you hang around for a while, you will find that we ain't so bad. Even that fascis......... er, Republican Herm is really an alright guy. ;) :mrgreen:
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Re: The BUF (Beyond Unreal Forum) "Off Topic" section review

Post by Hook » Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:43 am

Well, one thing is for sure, those links to that thread at BuF that Hermskii posted ...
That thread was awful! - Appalling!
That stuff in that thread does not even come near to being funny.
Just plain sick! :evil:
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