2020 Election

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Who are you voting for or who would you vote for if you could?

Trump
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3rd Party
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17%
 
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Re: 2020 Election

Post by Hermskii » Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:25 pm

New question: If Trump is determined to have actually won this election after they figure out the democrats were cheating for instance, would you accept it? In any case starting right now, could you think that Trump did actually win?

Someone also mentioned the 12th amendment to me today. Have you checked that out yet? Pretty interesting unless you want Biden to be President. Then it may suck pretty bad.
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Re: 2020 Election

Post by EvilGrins » Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:37 pm

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New question: If Trump is determined to have actually won this election after they figure out the democrats were cheating for instance, would you accept it?
I accepted Trump won in 2016 because he did win. I wasn't happy about it, but I accepted it... and as expected he made a royal mess of things because he never rose to the position.

If it turned out he actually won 2020 then of course i'd accept it. But that's not going to happen, because the only person who tried to rig the election was Trump, and as usual he couldn't even get that right.

Trump's lawyers revealed that none of the cases being filed on voter fraud have any evidence:
https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/t ... -and-spam/
Hermskii wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:25 pm
In any case starting right now, could you think that Trump did actually win?
I really can't, because I'm not a fan of political fiction.

The 12th amendment thing has come up before, in an effort to overrule the will of the people Trump has been trying to get the GOP heads of state to make the people of their states' votes be nullified and vote on their behalf... it was never intended to be used in this manner and so far the courts are preventing them from doing this.

Just another botched attempt for Trump's voter fraud scam to undo our Democracy.
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Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:10 pm
done this to President Obama, then the game developer would be labeled as racist
Doubt it. There's nothing racist about shooting someone with an arrow... and there's tons of games like that with Trump either as the hero or as the victim.
Hermskii wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:07 pm
Look at this too!
I've got a conservative friend on FB that is flooding with every half baked conspiracy and rumor on this garbage. The Dominion thing was started up by Qanon, and they messed with the details to make it seem like something it was not.

That's already been debunked.
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Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:40 am
explaining how Republicans "just want a fair election" and democrats do everything they can get illegal votes to swing the final tally
Which might have greater impact if not for a couple things.
1) In March Trump said if all Americans got to vote it would be bad for the Republicans.
2) Trump takes a massive stand against mail-in voting, claiming how it is rife with the potential for fraud even though there's nothing to back that up.
3) Trump put a guy in charge of the USPS who started to sabotage the mailing system so as to make mail-in voting that much more difficult.

So the "Republicans just want a fair election" thing is hampered by the Trump Admin's efforts to restrict the ability for all Americans to vote. As it happens, more Americans voted this year than ever before but not all those votes actually made it to where they were counted because despite being ordered by a number of Federal Judges, Trump's USPS lackey never got around to fixing the sabotage he'd caused.

To be fair, Trump is a RINO and the GOP are collectively mad at him for a number of things... so his sabotage cannot be attributed entirely to Republicans as a whole, although in this country the most common instances of voter fraud and voter suppression have not been committed by Democrats.

On a side note, the current PressSec is a Trump-zealot and not to be trusted. I'm not even gonna bother to watch her.

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Re: 2020 Election

Post by Hook » Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:42 am

I could add to what EG said above, ad nauseam, because there is so much more, but it is so overwhelming just to delve into it all.
Let's just leave it as, I totally agree with EG, aka the facts. :wink:
What EG posted above is enough I think. 8)
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Re: 2020 Election

Post by Hermskii » Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:45 pm

At least we are all still friends even though we disagree. Merica!
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Re: 2020 Election

Post by Hook » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:08 pm

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At least we are all still friends even though we disagree. Merica!
Yes - *group hug* :wink:
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Re: 2020 Election

Post by EvilGrins » Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:59 am

A bit unrelated, I'm doing a map and I'm loading up a UTDMT with Trump quotes (orange titan, very fat) and I wanted to share one of my sources.

This:
https://www.shortlist.com/news/most-rid ... uotes-ever

Notably has one where Trump said many years ago that if he ran for President he'd probably do better as a Democrat than a Republican.

Has another where he claims he created MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, despite that Ronald Reagan used that too.

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Re: 2020 Election

Post by a nameless entity » Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:02 pm

I hear in the news that the Donald himself telephoned those two Republican scrutineers in Michigan and browbeat them to change their minds again and disavow the election results there. And of course his irregular army of proto-SA men promptly made death threats against them. Isn't it illegal for him to interfere in the process that way?

Everyone talks about him destroying the American republic when he does things like that. Frankly, I think the USA will survive intact once he is gone.
But I'm pretty sure he has destroyed the Republican Party with his evil machinations. It was in trouble before little Donny the fascist came along, but now it is near death.

Once it has gone one fears what may replace it on the right, however. :(
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Re: 2020 Election

Post by EvilGrins » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:20 am

a nameless entity wrote:
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Isn't it illegal for him to interfere in the process that way?
YES!

I mean, yes.

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Re: 2020 Election

Post by Hook » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:42 am

EvilGrins wrote:
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a nameless entity wrote:
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Isn't it illegal for him to interfere in the process that way?
YES!

I mean, yes.
YES, HIGHLY Illegal!
I understand that Lindsey is under investigation now on that, or soon will be.
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Re: 2020 Election

Post by Hermskii » Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:27 pm

Hmmmmm? I can't wait to see what happens here. I hear some interesting things about the direction this is going.


Quick question on another note and this is aimed at EG, Nameless and Hook:

Do you think "illegal aliens" should be allowed into the United States of America? Please specify your reasoning for your answer. Go!
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Re: 2020 Election

Post by EvilGrins » Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:23 pm

Hermskii wrote:
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Do you think "illegal aliens" should be allowed into the United States of America? Please specify your reasoning for your answer.
Ignoring a moment they already are here, many have been here for several generations.... yes.

Keep in mind, the illegals to whom are being referred to tend to largely come from South of the US border and those people used to own half of our country, so it's not so much they're violating our territory as it is they're visiting their ancestral homes. Also when Trump complained about them most he frequently pointed out that he wanted less people coming into the country from down there and more coming from places like Norway...

...not saying he's racist, but that's a little suggestive.

Curiously Trump has less problems with the people of Brazil, who look Caucasian though they're really not, than he does with the people of Central America... just saying.

I think Obama's way worked best, work illegals crossing the border to the letter of the law within our Constitution. Hold them for 72 hours, give them their guaranteed hearing, and if they pass let them stay. If they don't, send them home. Contrary to Trump separation policies which he tried to extend to hold those he had locked up in border facilities indefinitely, Obama was known as the Deporter-in-Chief. Hearings were fair and balanced, unlike the hearings Trump earlier held where a child only 5 years old was tossed in, often without a translator, and no legal counsel.

Our Constitution has the correct way to handle this, that Trump abandoned for his much crueler way of handling things. Let's get back to handling this in a manner which keeps to the US Constitution.

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Re: 2020 Election

Post by EvilGrins » Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:09 am

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Re: 2020 Election

Post by EvilGrins » Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:28 pm

This is ridiculous, but I thought I'd share it regardless, because despite the silly pic... Hannity is ACTUALLY already SERIOUSLY blaming Biden for not having the pandemic under control yet.
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Re: 2020 Election

Post by Hook » Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:47 pm

Holly crud Evilgrins :shock:
WOW - just WOW - Really? These guys are simply Unbelievable! :roll:
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Re: 2020 Election

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