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Have WE UT Fanatics FORGOTTEN Why? ...

Post by Hook » Fri May 21, 2010 1:09 pm

Have WE UT Fanatics FORGOTTEN Why? ...

UT HAS pretty much ALL it needs now. :wink: REALLY!

Except one thing... (That we Seem to have Forgotten about)
What is it that Any Possible NEW players look for when they decide to "PLAY" a game? (hint hint)
They do NOT look for New mods, New maps, New textures, etc. - nothing like that at all.
We have TONS of all of that and some of it is good and some of it is Not good! ...
... (ie "Not good" -> S3TC Texture Debate or Debacle for one) look here-> S3TC Textures and their Replacements? also at UT99.org :roll:

The Over Whelming Single Most thing I hear from NEW players is -
- They Look to see IF, and more importantly, HOW MANY Players are PLAYING the game online! (still) :shock:
They LOVE the idea that there are Still Players PLAYING UT online and then wish to get UT and PLAY it!
This is what WE all NEED to do MORE of to keep UT99 alive!
The more people that PLAY it - the more people that WILL PLAY it!
We generally Like the game Because others Play it also! Me too!
I see more and more people creating things for UT but by far, More and More UT people Not PLAYING UT as much or anymore at all!
Again, I am talking about people that ARE Still INTO UT but don't PLAY it!
WE/They hang around forums a lot and map and make more mods and "fix" things, etc., etc. - But we aren't PLAYING UT or at least Not very much or as much as we would LIKE to!!! :|
I am guilty also of not PLAYING UT as much as I want to or Should be playing it!!!
Have we Forgotten WHY we got into UT in the first place? (I think I did) :|
I plan on remedying that as much as possible!
So - PLAY UT online and PLAY it much more often. - I am going to! :wink:
Let's Have some FUN with this Great Game before it is too late - Let us PLAY it!!!
That is the MAIN KEY to keeping UT alive! :wink:

NOTE: I know that some of us DO play quite a bit - this isn't aimed at you anymore than to say KEEP it Up! :P
But, a LOT of us UT Fans don't play as much as we should - or at all! :|
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Post by BIOMECH » Fri May 21, 2010 3:09 pm

Makes the younger generation feel good for playing it in such an obsessive manner :lol:
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Post by Fuzz_Ball » Sun May 23, 2010 10:20 pm

Yeah! What Hook said.
That is the MAIN KEY to keeping UT alive!
So, is there a KEYBIND for that? :roll:
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Post by {§ÎR}Írôn Chef » Sun May 23, 2010 10:27 pm

Hook wrote:Have WE UT Fanatics FORGOTTEN Why? ...

UT HAS pretty much ALL it needs now. :wink: REALLY!

Except one thing... (That we Seem to have Forgotten about)
What is it that Any Possible NEW players look for when they decide to "PLAY" a game? (hint hint)
They do NOT look for New mods, New maps, New textures, etc. - nothing like that at all.
We have TONS of all of that and some of it is good and some of it is Not good! ...
... (ie "Not good" -> S3TC Texture Debate or Debacle for one) look here-> S3TC Textures and their Replacements? also at UT99.org :roll:

Umm as I said on your forum, and I stick behind it, these textures look and play better than d3d on newer comps! you're welcome to come over and look for yourself :wink:
I tried d3d and it looks and and plays like chit! as long as the server admins do use the original textures from the 1st disc there should be no skating player problem? if I understand this right. I get and smoothly at that 200 FPS where as with d3d 60's and very crappy and choppy , so what to do ?? pretty self evident to me, play with the better textures and open GL ! or go play 2k4 which is ! a d3d game and will play that way!

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The Over Whelming Single Most thing I hear from NEW players is -
- They Look to see IF, and more importantly, HOW MANY Players are PLAYING the game online! (still) :shock:
They LOVE the idea that there are Still Players PLAYING UT online and then wish to get UT and PLAY it!
This is what WE all NEED to do MORE of to keep UT99 alive!
The more people that PLAY it - the more people that WILL PLAY it!
We generally Like the game Because others Play it also! Me too!
I see more and more people creating things for UT but by far, More and More UT people Not PLAYING UT as much or anymore at all!
Again, I am talking about people that ARE Still INTO UT but don't PLAY it!
WE/They hang around forums a lot and map and make more mods and "fix" things, etc., etc. - But we aren't PLAYING UT or at least Not very much or as much as we would LIKE to!!! :|
I am guilty also of not PLAYING UT as much as I want to or Should be playing it!!!
Have we Forgotten WHY we got into UT in the first place? (I think I did) :|
I plan on remedying that as much as possible!
So - PLAY UT online and PLAY it much more often. - I am going to! :wink:
Let's Have some FUN with this Great Game before it is too late - Let us PLAY it!!!
That is the MAIN KEY to keeping UT alive! :wink:

NOTE: I know that some of us DO play quite a bit - this isn't aimed at you anymore than to say KEEP it Up! :P
But, a LOT of us UT Fans don't play as much as we should - or at all! :|
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Post by Hook » Mon May 24, 2010 8:06 am

Fuzz_Ball wrote:Yeah! What Hook said.
That is the MAIN KEY to keeping UT alive!
So, is there a KEYBIND for that? :roll:
Yep, the Keybind is called "START Your UT Game!" :wink:

Chef - From what I have been reading lately, it is Hit or Miss.
If it goes good for you, do it.
For me, it is D3D and the stock textures all the way for Playing UT!
As for Servers? - It is an Absolute MUST on the Servers to use the Stock 1st CD textures!

I just am pretty much a UT purist and a lot of what I preach is aimed at New Players of UT99 also.
My Player install of UT99 is still my original install from back in 1999! :wink:
Most people keep adding to, changing and bending their UT until it breaks and then they have to re-install it and start over again.
I pretty much avoid anything that changes UT very much as I like UT as it was (or is) and I don't like much of the New "stuff" that has been created to Change UT into something else! :(
Going with OpenGL and the new hi-res textures is something that players must decide on their own later on after first getting used to UT.
If it works - go for it - if it doesn't - it doesn't. :wink:

NOTE: I have amended my post that was Linked above to reflect this! :wink:
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Post by gopostal » Mon May 31, 2010 7:58 am

I had a spirited and thorough debate with diehard on UT99.org about the texture packs:
http://www.ut99.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=2697

I'm telling you guys, in the end you will be sorry for this. Diehard is a most excellent photoshopper but his coding is creating a way into servers that is going to be seriously abused, not to mention forcing admins to alter their servers to accommodate what a player wants to install locally is horrendous. There is just no reason these textures cannot be released as utx packages and the maps updated instead of this ongoing mess. You fans of the work do realize that there is an upper limit to this? I mean he's not through the stock packages and already he's well over what most video cards can render. People are taking the "candy" with no thought of the sugar.

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Post by Hermskii » Mon May 31, 2010 11:42 pm

Well said GOPO. My only issue is that he keeps redoing existing textures over and over. There needs to be a simple package of nothing but instructions and the textures. I have not read the thread you posted yet BTW.
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Post by MEAT » Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:29 am

Hook wrote:Have WE UT Fanatics FORGOTTEN Why? ...
UT HAS pretty much ALL it needs now.
Except for players...
The problem is we lost all those that use to play because UT99 was
not evolving.
hence: Unreal Gold, UT2003, UT2004, ...etc
Hook wrote: Except one thing... (That we Seem to have Forgotten about)
What is it that Any Possible NEW players look for when they decide to "PLAY" a game? ]
Being that UT99 is 11 years old...I think new players look for newer games.
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Post by Hook » Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:43 am

gopostal wrote:I had a spirited and thorough debate with diehard on UT99.org about the texture packs:
http://www.ut99.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=2697

I'm telling you guys, in the end you will be sorry for this. Diehard is a most excellent photoshopper but his coding is creating a way into servers that is going to be seriously abused, not to mention forcing admins to alter their servers to accommodate what a player wants to install locally is horrendous. There is just no reason these textures cannot be released as utx packages and the maps updated instead of this ongoing mess. You fans of the work do realize that there is an upper limit to this? I mean he's not through the stock packages and already he's well over what most video cards can render. People are taking the "candy" with no thought of the sugar.
I have scanned most of it (both here and there) and have been following along over there and have posted also.
I say Well said to Gopo! :wink:
I generally avoid anything that "SPLITS" UT into incompatible versions or causes any trouble with UT!!! :evil:
We do NOT need UT to SPLIT any more than it already has! (We need maybe even LESS splits than we already have!)
Again I say - WE need to PLAY it more (Online).
The more that PLAY - the More that WILL PLAY - or at least will KEEP Playing it! :P
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Post by *POTS* » Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:14 pm

I say if your video card can afford to run UT at a resolution of 1024x768, a color depth of 32 bits, all detail settings to "high", and from 30 to 60 frames per second, that's more than enough for the average player (well that would be awesome for me at least).
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Post by Hook » Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:12 am

*POTS* wrote:I say if your video card can afford to run UT at a resolution of 1024x768, a color depth of 32 bits, all detail settings to "high", and from 30 to 60 frames per second, that's more than enough for the average player (well that would be awesome for me at least).
I agree - I could care less about any so-called hi-res textures that have basically caused more problems than good.
I tried them once and yep they were better, but not worth it. :|
Even my old comp runs At Least as good as the specs you gave above. :wink:
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Post by Hermskii » Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:51 pm

So HOOK, have you ever seen UT played on a Voodoo video card? If I recall, the 3DFX Glide Renderer was certainly the best offered for the UT back then. It is truly something to see!
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Post by Hook » Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:33 am

Hermskii wrote:So HOOK, have you ever seen UT played on a Voodoo video card? If I recall, the 3DFX Glide Renderer was certainly the best offered for the UT back then. It is truly something to see!
Hmmm, no I don't recall seeing UT on that setup.
BUT - if I ever get to your house, have it set up for me to view it. :wink:
That and a few Cold Ones! - will make it look even better! :P

Back to Topic - We NEED to PLAY UT More online! :wink:
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