Where is everybody?
- MEAT
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Where is everybody?
I see that the Forum/Memberlist is 40 strong but where are they? I've never seen 35 of the 40 playing the Redeemer, much less voice an opinion here. Are we just playing at different hours and we're missing each other? Come up for air and take a crack at me I need the drama...lol
- MickeyM©
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Re: Where is everybody?
"Names have been changed to protect the innocent"MEAT wrote:I see that the Forum/Memberlist is 40 strong but where are they? I've never seen 35 of the 40 playing the Redeemer, much less voice an opinion here. Are we just playing at different hours and we're missing each other? Come up for air and take a crack at me I need the drama...lol

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- MEAT
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Let me stir the pot up a little bit here....lol
50 and climbing !!!! And I've seen and played against 7 other people who are not even on the forum. Now the question is....Is CG big enough to sustain this many people..if not more? Are maps big enough? Is 10 people in a map to many? ClanDOU Redeemer is turning out to be a dead site.....should CG provide a second Redeeming site?
Am I the only one concerned here....lol
50 and climbing !!!! And I've seen and played against 7 other people who are not even on the forum. Now the question is....Is CG big enough to sustain this many people..if not more? Are maps big enough? Is 10 people in a map to many? ClanDOU Redeemer is turning out to be a dead site.....should CG provide a second Redeeming site?
Am I the only one concerned here....lol
- Hermskii
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Yep
Funny Meat. Remember, many of us have seen this through for 4-5 years now. I have run up to 5 different servers at once before with 4 of them being Deemer servers. It worked well for about 2 weeks and then all players would play on CG only and the overflow would play on one other. The other 2 were a waste. It isn't that we aren't interested but we have pretty much already touched on every single subject you have mentioned and we have touched them several times over several years.
Keep em coming though. I too have thougt about another server. Clan DOU must be patient. No server goes up in a week and get popular. CG took a year. Then it fell off the map for several months several times. Busy or not, I'll run it till I'm sick to Death of it or need the computer for something else.
Keep em coming though. I too have thougt about another server. Clan DOU must be patient. No server goes up in a week and get popular. CG took a year. Then it fell off the map for several months several times. Busy or not, I'll run it till I'm sick to Death of it or need the computer for something else.
~Peace~
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... let me add one thing I think it's important : players become "addicted" in deemer gaming after having been noobs (I think nobody come on CG for his first times and is already a great player !). Every experienced people starts noob in any competition in the world ! Practicing does the rest...
And when noobs come on a server, they love to find many bots in game to have someone to shoot at and feel they can play "like others", if no bots aboard they leave immediately.
- You say that shooting at bots is not a challenge, you're right, but beginners don't need challenge : they need fun !
- You say that shooting at bots isn't funny, you're right, but shooting at walls is worse...
Many of the old players have stopped playing for many reasons : ut 2k3, 2k4, sniper, missile madness and many other brand new games and differents events of life....
When I run UTcheck I often see the clanDOU server with one and only player, training, practicing (as he can read in the forums) hoping he will one day defeat his first regular.
No bots (that you are asking for on this forum and now on the clanDOU forum... and I think you're wrong) is rather killing a server instead of helping it to get more and more players. Fresh blood is needed !!!
I just say here what I think and nothing to be AGAINS YOU MEAT lol (I say that before you think you have an army against you !...). You're a good player but too new [even with a bit more than one year of deemer] to have seen all the "waves" of many or very few players that NWRO, Kidcapri's and CG have known.
I think this is a phenomenon that happens to any sort of acivity.
And when noobs come on a server, they love to find many bots in game to have someone to shoot at and feel they can play "like others", if no bots aboard they leave immediately.
- You say that shooting at bots is not a challenge, you're right, but beginners don't need challenge : they need fun !
- You say that shooting at bots isn't funny, you're right, but shooting at walls is worse...
Many of the old players have stopped playing for many reasons : ut 2k3, 2k4, sniper, missile madness and many other brand new games and differents events of life....
When I run UTcheck I often see the clanDOU server with one and only player, training, practicing (as he can read in the forums) hoping he will one day defeat his first regular.
No bots (that you are asking for on this forum and now on the clanDOU forum... and I think you're wrong) is rather killing a server instead of helping it to get more and more players. Fresh blood is needed !!!
I just say here what I think and nothing to be AGAINS YOU MEAT lol (I say that before you think you have an army against you !...). You're a good player but too new [even with a bit more than one year of deemer] to have seen all the "waves" of many or very few players that NWRO, Kidcapri's and CG have known.
I think this is a phenomenon that happens to any sort of acivity.
Too much lag ? go fishing...
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- MEAT
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touch'e
That's the spirit PoLoo...now show me that fire during a game.
The problem is no one is practicing, noobs or regulars, that I can see. Maybe they leave when you're playing...lol And if you notice I welcome noobs and always provide help in playing the redeemer, teleporter and telling them places to hide. I teach for a living, it's something I do. And I never see them leave immediately. But don't get me wrong, you are right.... in a perfect world practice is key for improvement and acceptance....but facts show that it's just something the novice doesn't do. And if they want to practice with bots let them go to ClanDOU.....oops, they don't even go there either. Neither do we unless CG is down, but bots are so predicable why bother. (my idea would be to leave a couple bots, so you can practice, but when 2 or more people arrive then out with the bots.........so we can all play a fair game)
Actually this and other sites are a little outdated and yes many of the old players have moved on to newer things and that's another reason it's hard to attract noobs....they are all playing newer versions of this game. And that might be a problem for ClanDOU because they are not attracting newer players to the Redeemer. The people you see playing and posting at the ClanDOU forum are the same people you see playing and conversing at CG. Which brings up the real issue here. With just so many or few people playing Redeemer can two servers (that are somewhat similar) survive together? Record shows there were at least 5 other Redeemer sites at one time....not anymore. Life is a monopoly and to survive we have to have differences not similarities. And to continue we have to develop and evolve. It's the nature of the beast. And if I had and enjoyed running a server such as CG I would worry about people leaving me and going elsewhere.
You make some good points PoLoo and I comend you for that. FRESH BLOOD is needed but we need to attract it. All I am suggesting (from day 1) is we try to make playing the redeemer better for those few that play here now.
That's the spirit PoLoo...now show me that fire during a game.
The problem is no one is practicing, noobs or regulars, that I can see. Maybe they leave when you're playing...lol And if you notice I welcome noobs and always provide help in playing the redeemer, teleporter and telling them places to hide. I teach for a living, it's something I do. And I never see them leave immediately. But don't get me wrong, you are right.... in a perfect world practice is key for improvement and acceptance....but facts show that it's just something the novice doesn't do. And if they want to practice with bots let them go to ClanDOU.....oops, they don't even go there either. Neither do we unless CG is down, but bots are so predicable why bother. (my idea would be to leave a couple bots, so you can practice, but when 2 or more people arrive then out with the bots.........so we can all play a fair game)
Actually this and other sites are a little outdated and yes many of the old players have moved on to newer things and that's another reason it's hard to attract noobs....they are all playing newer versions of this game. And that might be a problem for ClanDOU because they are not attracting newer players to the Redeemer. The people you see playing and posting at the ClanDOU forum are the same people you see playing and conversing at CG. Which brings up the real issue here. With just so many or few people playing Redeemer can two servers (that are somewhat similar) survive together? Record shows there were at least 5 other Redeemer sites at one time....not anymore. Life is a monopoly and to survive we have to have differences not similarities. And to continue we have to develop and evolve. It's the nature of the beast. And if I had and enjoyed running a server such as CG I would worry about people leaving me and going elsewhere.
You make some good points PoLoo and I comend you for that. FRESH BLOOD is needed but we need to attract it. All I am suggesting (from day 1) is we try to make playing the redeemer better for those few that play here now.