Temp server

[Spice]

hell, dont you dare tell me to shut up ok?

i didnt spawn a r3 every singel freaking map i only did it THREE times THREE freaking times where as you and the other MHM's spawn dumb stuff that causes the map to lag for others ALL the time, there hasnt been one map other then your map that you havnt spawned junk, ohh, blowing up tables SO freaking fun isnt it? making players that kill everyone, so fun, making pointes gay stuipd items must be the highlight of your life

im sick of you saying i spawned it everytime when i didnt, MHM needs a wake up call to see how you guys really act, you go on and on about how great MHM is how its all about being nice, ect but half of the time you guys dont even stick to what you guys say, you give no "Expletive Deleted" about anyone else and only give a crap about those who wear the MHM tag, anyone else is well, not welcome on the server really

[-HellFire-]

you give no "Expletive Deleted" about anyone else and only give a crap about those who wear the MHM tag, anyone else is well, not welcome on the server really

Let me tell you this, if there is ONE or MORE players asking for help we ALWAYS help him/her out.
We are never involving people in our goofing around stuff (only if they want to).
So you shut up about ''MHM is soo bad''.

[Spice]

please, i have been on the MHM server where people where asking for help and no one was helping them, trust me, you would never know as 9 times out of 10 you guys are to busy talking with each other, which is fine, or goofing off,if you guys wanna goof off do it when no one else is playing or at least make it so the game runs ok for everyone else by not spawning dumb weapons

[-HellFire-]

The thing I'm sick of is whining the entire topic about ''spawning weapons''.

I'll make it clear so EVEN YOU will understand it.
Only weapons will be spawned in SPAM maps or like in Arden, to get up the cliff.
You spawned them in easy, normal MH maps (3 times if you say so).
And what has the weapon spawn to do with this anways?

You're part of the one's that are ''included'' in this ''fight'', so don't get involved if you don't want a ''fight''.

[Spice]

im not talking about weapons, im talking about the junk you spawn, ohh, lets blow up this tables, or lets blow up his goo thing, lets make monsters that u cant kill but that can kill you with one hit.

now, i could care less if u spawn weapons, but spawning stuff that makes the server lag and well that makes it so we cant play is what ticks me off

[-HellFire-]

Ahh.... I see the issue...

Your PC/Laptop is probably crap because I don't have any lag at all.
And about the blowing up things is called fun, which you maybe don't understand well.
Do you actually know what ''fun'' means?
And what's your problem if I like to spawn some stuff?
I'm not bothering anyone with it except you ofcourse.
If this is already your biggest problem..

PS: lets stop because others also want to talk and not listen to our ''crap''.

[BIOMECH]

Yep, Bio. I love how judgemental you are of me, seeing as how much *you* have brought to the table and how *few* of your posts are complaints about one thing or another.

Yeah well, you are not immune to critism because the people critising you have problems too.

OOOoo but it's OK for you. "I have a disease that lets me be an arsehole any time I want." Must be nice to think you have a free pass.

I never said ANYONE had a free pass, I said YOU over-react to things. But hey, maybe the only way you can reply is with moral superiority.

I apologized openly for my transgressions. I don't think I've ever seen you use the word "sorry" in a post....well unless you were describing someone.

Hmmm. You've actually got me on that one.

And lastly, it's not fair to try to blame me for the problems of people having admin powers.

I'm not blaming you, I'm saying that it was inevitable and should have been easy to see coming.

There is a group that has been playing consistently on the testserver without incident for a while now. No one has kicked anyone, caused anyone anger, or mistreated anyone

Mmmmmmmno. the UTSA's and EA are as annoying as we are.

It's simple really. You just choose not to do things that are wrong. Impulse control is something you choose not to have.

Hm, fair point.

**Herm, I apologize if this is offensive. I've had about all I'm going to tolerate though from a few people

gopo, even you must have noticed how strong these arguments develop. Your post isn't offensive, it's average.

I'm not going to bite my lip any longer.

Hooray, maybe this debate will go somewhere instead of us running at a brick wall which says "why do you not slow down?"

And as ever, I like you as a person and you wouldn't even know this argument was happening if we met during a MH match, but here I'm talking to an admin on the forums. It's not personal, I'm attacking your job not you.

[MEAT]

Here's the problem I have and I can see why gopostal is so disappointed in everyones behavior.
gopostal, in good faith, invites everyone into his home (go's Test server) and it turns into animal house.
You all acted like a bunch of punk kids, no offense, but that's what it sounds like to me.
My advice (which isn't worth chit) whenever someone asks for help do your best to help then move on.

[BIOMECH]

OK...
I've had a good play on Unreal...
I've read a book...
I've had dinner...
I'm calm...

And I have a sense of clarity too.
I realize now that although there were mistakes made on both sides, it was our mistakes that brought out gopo's, so in a way, we created our own problems.
These arguments keep happening, but they serve no real purpose beyond creating a rift.
Even if he over-reacts to everything, we're not doing ourselves any favors by giving him something to react to.
Turning gopostal into an enemy is going to benefit NO-ONE, so we might as well calm down, figure out what went wrong, and let this rest.
I'll lower the volume of my posts, but I'll leave it to everyone else to decide on their own course of action.

[Reiyel_3.0]

I realize now that although there were mistakes made on both sides, it was our mistakes that brought out gopo's, so in a way, we created our own problems

Yes, that´s the truth. Clearly you all thought you were on you own server and forgot IT WAS GOPO´S! It´s a shame that you couldn´t remember that. You have to respect that: it´s Gopo´s house you have to respect his rules!!!!

You all acted like a bunch of punk kids, no offense, but that's what it sounds like to me.
My advice (which isn't worth chit) whenever someone asks for help do your best to help then move on.

Well, this is like saying I hate baseball. Perhaps some of you will say that baseball is such a great sport and etc etc. That wouldn´t change the fact that I hate it and no matter how many reasons you would give I will still think it sucks.

The same with gamestyle; comments about if a game style is "correct" or not should be avoided since its going to be a never end discussion. With that logic, just like you said goofing is "punk kids" behaviour, I could say players that only kill monsters are mindless dumb droids, or that having a tloc in DM is stupid.

Gopo, I´m tired of this discussions. I´m tired of people "don´t trying to get involved into fights" but instead they make fights bigger; it´s not good at all when debates become personal; it could get offensive and we have to respect each other before everything.

That´s why I believe you should take a break of MHM. We all appreciate your job but in order to go back to those great moments when we had MHM3 we might need a break to think about what happened and to avoid hurting each other.

Damn

[BIOMECH]

You know, I can't remember how MHM3 was done

[Ice]

Hey Gopo,
This isn't so much about the temp server but more about the talking happening. As I've said I respect you but I strongly disagree with you on many points. I make sure I say nothing personal in any reply's I post and I think other try not to either (some more than others of course)

So much for keeping it from getting personal...

You started the post with that. My definition of personal is an attack on someones life outside of this game/forum. So like family,health,appearance etc.
I looked back at the posts and saw nothing that matched anything near that.
The only insulting thing I saw from Bio was that you over react. Its been said before though.
and you've even admitted to it at times. So that being personal? If that wasn't it then what?

Then you say

OOOoo but it's OK for you. "I have a disease that lets me be an arsehole any time I want." Must be nice to think you have a free pass.

I though that was EXTREMELY inappropriate behavior and something you frankly don't deserve to say. Seeing as I recall a post from you defending your harsh and stupid actions by telling us it was because of your illness.

What I need you to tell me is why do you have the right to say your actions are because of your illness but you act like his is a load of crap. I don't think I've even heard Bio talk about his syndrome for a few months.

Unless Bio edited his post and took out some harshness that I'm missing I would like to ask that you don't make it personal because that was. Even if Bio didn't reply much to it. I know I would be enraged if someone would use an illness I have against me as an insult.

[Hermskii]

This social engineering experiment called MHM should get real interesting soon. I say that because it is my intention to make Gopo one of the Admins on the MHM server after I have it all set up the way I want it. I already know know who else I plan to have be part of my Secret Assassin Administrator Club so please don't email making your case to be an Admin on MHM. If you don't get an invite to try out for the job then you aren't going to be a Admin. There, I saved a few folks some embarrassment.

I say it will be interesting knowing that Gopo will be one of them because some of you just nearly died when I said it thinking he'll take sweet vengeance on you for any dispute that you have ever had with him. Yet, he also will still have to know what is allowed and isn't and be impartial and fair while distributing his will in the form of cold hard justice to all who challenge the law at MHM. All admins are subject to their actions and can and will have their performance judged by me since I actually have the final word. I must admit that I have very rarely ever overturned any decision any Admin has ever made on MHM. I have also removed Admin power from several people in the past for abusing it. I'm actually pretty good at this stuff as far as sitting back and watching others run the show.

I just wanted everyone to know which way this is going so that anyone who feels they need to make some adjustments can make them before the "Reckoning Cometh". Does that sound familiar? I don't want it to sound too much like I had this in the plan the whole time or anything.

Mmmmmm! Can you smell what "The Rock" is cooking? Chuck Norris can because "The Rock" is "Chuck Norris's" personal chef.

[-SuPreMe-]

I personally think its a good thing if gopo is an admin aslong as he has control over the redirect, adding new maps will be quick and easy.

But im also hoping he will not come in all overly aggressive like with UMH and start dictating players.

I've allways seen MHM as a nice laid back place, with the simple rules of dont be abusive or be a lamer.
I hope things stay that way.

But i sense conflict on the horizon

[Fuzz_Ball]

.... Just don't kill people and take their little metal cows!!!