Weapon Speed

[Hook]

OK just because a "cheat" is present on one's UT doesn't mean it's in use.
That's the point I was trying to make.

I guess it would be hard to catch a cheat when he knows he's being tested...duh

My thoughts exactly!

[Hermskii]

I hope this cheat discussion-topic falls off soon. Unmovable object verses an unstoppable one is what this is turning into. I feel strongly that GOPO could prove it more than anyone else that somebodies cheating and I feel equally strong that KK does not cheat and hasn't in the past. I'm on the fence.

[Killer Klownz]

I hope this cheat discussion-topic falls off soon. Unmovable object verses an unstoppable one is what this is turning into. I feel strongly that GOPO could prove it more than anyone else that somebodies cheating and I feel equally strong that KK does not cheat and hasn't in the past. I'm on the fence.

Either you think I'm cheating or you don't. There is no gray area and no fence to sit on. Let him produce unmistakable evidence that I, SB and others cheat as he has accused us of, me in particular. I've visited over half a dozen PURE & UTDC servers, including fuzz_balls TNT_NooS_v25.u/UTDCv21dll.u pick (just finished playing on it again as a matter of fact), in the last 24 hours and not one has booted me after scanning me. I have never downloaded nor ever checked into any cheat and NEVER will. In my book there is no point in cheating. All this has done is to suck the fun out of playing. Now I know why SB walked away.

[gopostal]

In no way am I saying this is directed at anyone but I'm going to show you how easy it is to beat the system. I dropped in on an assortment of UTDC and Pure servers then dropped by Hooks and MEAT's servers.

Now, I didn't fire the first redeemer I just stayed long enough to grab a couple of demo screens:

Radar.zip

If you notice the lower left there is also a discreet radar showing relative player position.

Now KK I am sorry I have riled you. As I have said, it's simply my opinion and nothing more. You probably are a skilled player but I stand by my thoughts. Can I prove it? No. But neither can you prove I was doing it not 15 minutes ago on both servers without these screenshots.

[Fuzz_Ball]

All this has done is to suck the fun out of playing. Now I know why SB walked away.

Yeah! Oooooooo! Oh noo, it even sucked RVH right down the toilet!!!
RaaaaaaawRRRR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR - Oh, I kill me!!

Actually SB plays pretty regularly under a different name. I recognize his style and we still have fun blasting each other to tiny bits.

[MEAT]

Ahh radar...I like that cheat...

[Killer Klownz]

So a baseless accusation is made by gopostal. I get scanned at over half a dozen sites running latest greatest anti-cheats and offer to be scanned by anyone, anywhere, at anytime. Then he tries to justify the crap with "Can I prove it? No. But . . " What unmitigated bullshit. If you're going to pat yourself on the back for having the balls to say I cheat then you ought to nut up, grow a pair, and have the same balls to admit you were flat out wrong.

[Killer Klownz]

Actually SB plays pretty regularly under a different name. I recognize his style and we still have fun blasting each other to tiny bits.

That's probably just yet another player stomping you . . . .

[Hook]

Actually SB plays pretty regularly under a different name. I recognize his style and we still have fun blasting each other to tiny bits.

That's probably just yet another player stomping you . . . .

I also play SB quite regularly.
He uses different names almost daily, but like Fuzz said, I can spot him a mile away.
Usually within 10 secs. of him entering the server - I just know by the names he uses that it is him.
He is always amazed at how I know it is him virtually every time!

PS: SB just had surgery about 2 weeks ago for a "Fissure" (very painful) but he was playing UT with me THAT evening!!!
He was groggy but he still played pretty darn good!!!

[MEAT]

Actually SB plays pretty regularly under a different name. I recognize his style and we still have fun blasting each other to tiny bits.

That's probably just yet another player stomping you . . . .

I never do like players changing there names.
And SB gave me this lame excuse once for doing it.
What are they hiding?

[*POTS*]

In testing I have seen the shockwaves of the redeemer score as many as four times per redeemer. I think this is lag dependent because locally it doesn't happen. On server though it tends to double or triple over. Limiting any single damage to 1000 will help this, and the worst case scenario is a 4000 damage deemer hit.

Enough said, you can't just put your trust in this weapon.

[Hook]

Are you talking about scoring 4 times as Hitting 4 players at once?
That can happen.

[gopostal]

Not that Hook. Let me give you a little history on what I've found with the deemer...

When I had to account for the redeemer shockwave in antiboost (God knows that took forever to sort out) a funny thing happened when it's used on a server. You can clearly see several "waves" pass as the redeemer shock washes over you. Now looking at the code there is only one wave spawned but I think what happens is that the wave passes slowly enough that damage can be counted twice, three, and sometimes four times before the wave moves away.

You can see this clearly for yourself. Grab a deemer and blast it at your feet on one of my antiboost servers. Jump up before it gets to you and watch closely. You'll see yourself take several waves as you hang in the air. Also you can use the redeemer on a high-health monster and depending on server ping your score can go up anywhere from 1000 to 4000 depending on the number of ticks that the shockwave is in contact with the monster.

I hope that explains it. I think you don't see this much on redeemer only servers because the server load is so much less. Each tick is cleanly executed and no "bleedover" (nod to MEAT) happens.