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Post by matrix » Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:37 pm

Anyone heard of Intelligent Design? I don't want to go deep into it, but if you know what it is WITHOUT looking it up, just lemme know first.

Just a survey thingy.

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Post by Hook » Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:10 pm

Yes - it is something I have seen recently and is and has been also a subject that is close to my heart for many years - however it really opens doors to much heated debate!
Not always a good thing to bring up on a forum! :shock: :wink:
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Post by matrix » Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:18 pm

Yes, people are losing friends at school because I brought this theory up to settle a religious vs. scientific debate in science class when studying the origin of the Universe.

Debate is fun, but when debate enters the realm of religion, things get ugly.



Another point, many people would say that the main reason that there is a war in Iraq right now is because the U.S. needs oil..
Weelll, watching some of my friends that are lifelong friends with each other turn to hate each other because of their different beliefs and perspectives of religion, I know believe that religion probably the number one cause for war.
Being one of the few people who have read the Koran, or Qur'an, I stand strong in that area.

But just a thought, no need for debate.
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Post by BiGbOsS » Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:18 pm

I too semi-know ID. It was mentioned in one of the books i was reading. It was probably Dan Brown's Angels and Demons although im not entirely sure. i know the basics not too much detail but its not a HUGE issue here in California, yet well anyways around the part im at in cali. hmm thats about all i have to say.

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Post by K » Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:56 pm

wikipedia wrote:Intelligent design is the assertion that "certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection."[1][2] It is a modern form of the traditional teleological argument for the existence of God, modified to avoid specifying the nature or identity of the designer.[3][4] Its primary proponents, all of whom are associated with the Discovery Institute,[5][6] believe the designer to be the God of Christianity.[7][8] Advocates of intelligent design claim it is a scientific theory,[9] and seek to fundamentally redefine science to accept supernatural explanations.[10]
Ahh, i had to find out what this controversial topic was. :lol:
Funny. It's only controversial to religious folk.

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Post by matrix » Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:06 am

Heh. I read about 7 pages on Intelligent Design. Pretty interesting.

As we combatted the thought of an explosion from nothingness creating the four dimensions and all the matter and mass, many people who see any theory not directly involving God himself as false and corrupt, would say that the Big Bang theory contradicts science itself.. because it does not follow the Law of Conservation of Matter, which states: no matter can be created or destroyed.... which is said in Earthly terms, I doubt the laws of science on our planet are even similar the laws of a megacomplex Universe like that of ours.



But UED2 gave me another thought to chew on: What if, this Big Bang didn't create the four dimensions: length, width, height, and time, and all the matter and mass of the Universe out of enery in nothingness, but what if the explosion simply SUBTRACTED the matter and volume from the "void"?

Makes you think, eh?

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Post by Hermskii » Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:39 pm

Nope. Not at all. I know what I believe and I know the rest of you who don't believe in exactly what I believe in are going to burn in hell for all of eternity!!! I sleep very well at night. Peace to you all.
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Post by K » Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:56 am

The greatest height of all mans arrogance and stupidity was the day he stated he new anything at all about "god"
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Big bang aside:
This ID thing is just another attempt of the religious community to undermine science again. It is quite laughable.

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Post by Scify » Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:46 am

I am very open mind person I believe in god.

I hate : People push religion onto others.
Tells you can read or to watch.






I believe that everyone has right to own believes .

I Believe religion & scientific
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Post by Hook » Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:12 pm

Science & religion - go hand-in-hand I think! :wink:
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